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February 15, 2012

Calif. man charged with trying to kill EMS crew

Man was arrested after ramming his pickup into their ambulance outside of a hospital

By Jim Schultz
Record Searchlight

REDDING, California — A Cottonwood man accused of trying to kill two paramedics and an emergency medical technician by ramming his pickup into their ambulance outside Mercy Medical Center on Saturday night expressed disappointment when told no one was killed.

"That's too bad," he said. "Next time I'll drive through the front doors."

That information is included in a Redding police report issued after the Tuesday arraignment of Joel Michael Haller, 26, in Shasta County Superior Court.

Haller, who pleaded not guilty to the charges against him, including three counts of attempted murder, remains in Shasta County Jail in lieu of $1 million bail.

According to the Redding police report, Haller smiled and "nodded his head up and down" when asked by a police officer if he would do it again whenhe got out of jail.

But he told a witness he would wear his seat belt the next time.

Haller, scheduled to have a preliminary hearing on Feb. 29, was arrested on Saturday after allegedly plowing his pickup into an occupied and parked ambulance outside the Redding hospital.

"It was totally intentional," Sgt. Mike Wood with the Redding Police Department has said. "There's no doubt this guy did this on purpose."

Ironically, police have said, Haller was treated by one of the three men he allegedly tried to harm in the crash.

According to the police report, Haller's father told police after the crash that his son, who went to the hospital to seek treatment for a headache, has a history of mental illness and has been violent in the past.

The elder Haller said his son recently served 30 days in Tehama County Jail and had assaulted a sheriff's deputy.

In his police report, officer Justin Duval said he spoke with the younger Haller in the hospital's emergency room after the crash and asked him whether he rammed the ambulance on purpose.

"That's obvious," the officer reported Haller as saying.

When Duval asked him whether he had seen the paramedics in the ambulance, "Haller looked at me and chuckled but failed to answer my question," the police report said.

The men in the ambulance were Gregg Franz Herrman, 26, an emergency medical technician from Redding; Drew Alan Barnett, a 29-yearold paramedic from Redding; and Ryan Michael Samualson, a 35-year-old paramedic from Fortuna. Herrman was treated for back pain, while Barnett and Samualson weren't injured, police have said.

In November Haller was arrested by Tehama County deputies on suspicion of battering a peace officer while deputies conducted a welfare check on him at his Cottonwood home, the Record Searchlight has reported.

At 7:49 p.m. on Nov. 3, two Tehama County deputies were checking on Haller's welfare when he threw a rock at them but missed, according to the Tehama County Sheriff's Department.

Haller also kicked shut a cruiser door as another deputy was trying to get out of the car, deputies have said.  He faces three counts of attempted murder.

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Allie Wood Allie Wood Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:40:41 AM Crazy people! Sounds like he needs someone to talk to....why so angry I wonder?
Blaine Fidler Blaine Fidler Wed Feb 15 10:08:21 PST 2012 Why so angry? Probably something to do with him being mentally ill.
Danielle Demchak Danielle Demchak Wed Feb 15 10:11:00 PST 2012 he has "a history of mental illness." You can't rationalize with someone that has a mental illness.
Allie Wood Allie Wood Wed Feb 15 10:17:16 PST 2012 Danielle Demchak i know this im on meds myself! but there is always a reson behind everything.
Allie Wood Allie Wood Wed Feb 15 10:18:04 PST 2012 o and thats not me sticking up for the guy what he did was wayyyy wrong but you were kinda rude and im not stupid i can read i did graduate HS...
Calissa Garcia Calissa Garcia Wed Feb 15 10:20:37 PST 2012 Danielle Demchak :no you can"t..u can take em out tho xD sounds pretty rational to me...cmon how many free cards he gunna get b4 he ACTUALLY kills someone???!!!!
Danielle Demchak Danielle Demchak Wed Feb 15 10:29:26 PST 2012 Razi Wood he has a history of violence towards PD. now tell me that when you are in pain from let's say a migraine that you rationalize everything. I know that suffering from the things I do that I don't always rationalize like the rest of the world. It doesn't take but one little thing to set someone with lets say an "anger disorder" off. you could look at a person with a disorder like that and they could want to kill you. it's a fuzzy report that is scary to think about. I know that if I was and EMT in that situation you've have to take me to the nearest walmart for new undies.
Charles Xrayonesevenseven Todd Charles Xrayonesevenseven Todd Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:41:03 AM If he had tried to harm a police officer, I`m sure things would have turned out differently. Since of course in the eyes of the law, we (in EMS) are less valuable than any police officer.
Tami Spraycar Tami Spraycar Wed Feb 15 12:50:30 PST 2012 Charles, did you NOT read the whole story? He did harm a Police Officer...just in November. As far as I am concerned...he should still be in jail for what he did. He has actually gotten a harsher punishment for this.
Charles Xrayonesevenseven Todd Charles Xrayonesevenseven Todd Wed Feb 15 20:03:29 PST 2012 I did read about his attempt to hit officers with a rock. But I also know that he will likely get of due to mental illness in this case. So there may not be a harsher punishment for this. I have seen many medics and EMTs attacked in my time and I have never seen law enforcement take it as seriously as if it were one of their own. It just needs to be understood that we`re all a part of the team and should act like it
Patty Slocumb Patty Slocumb Fri Feb 17 21:39:04 PST 2012 BS....that's not true at all. Our police officers stand in front if us and make sure scenes are safe ALL the time. We may not be as respected by the public or our own companies as much as we deserve to be but he's being tried for 3 counts of attempted murder that's pretty much the book being thrown at him. Not to mention he already did hurt an officer and only got 30 days in jail.
Doug Zalud Doug Zalud Sat Feb 18 00:51:38 PST 2012 Same here. When we got attacked, there was never even a report made, most of the time. If there was, the cops seemed to have no interest in persuing the issue. Hell, they didn't even know it was "only" a 4th degree felony to attack us. It was worse to attack a fire fighter.
Charles Xrayonesevenseven Todd Charles Xrayonesevenseven Todd Sat Feb 18 08:01:59 PST 2012 Patty Slocumb Obviously you`ve never been assaulted by a pt`s family member. Never had to forcefully disarm a pt. Had to stand between you partner and a knife. Or been shot at in uniform. I have , and then some. I work in a major metropolitan 911 zone. When was the last time you were assaulted by a pt`s father and told by the police (45 min later when they arrived) that you need the full name and address of the suspect to go swear out a warrant if yourself because the suspect in already getting into his car. When was the last time you were shot at in uniform? I can understand if such things don`t happen in your response zone but they do in mine. So right now you need to stop trying to call "BS" about experiences that others have had until you have been there or until you have WORN MY BODY ARMOR
Patty Slocumb Patty Slocumb Wed Feb 22 09:02:41 PST 2012 We all have had run ins with patients and their families. We had to wrestle one last night. And btw...you're not the only person that has worked "major metro areas" I've worked in major metro areas for 26 years and I wouldn't have wanted to do that without our police officers watching our backs. It's your attitude towards cops that is complete BS.
Charles Xrayonesevenseven Todd Charles Xrayonesevenseven Todd Wed Feb 22 09:42:21 PST 2012 Patty Slocumb It`s not about the cops. It`s about our value in the eyes of the law. It`s about how there is generally not much concern for EMS in the law. How in this state, "Obstructing or hindering an EMT" is less known than "Obstruction of an Officer". And how you never see someone even corrected for "Failing to obey at Fire or Emergency". The individual police officers are not taught the idea of loyalty in public safety. You know what they cover in one of the academies here concerning EMS here? "Let (Service name witheld) do their thing". That`s it. Ever had to call another service with a critical pt to confirm your mutual aid agreement because they thought you weren`t allowed to transport? What you keep failing to understand is that this is not against cops. This is about correcting the problems with loyalty, understanding and cooperation within public safety . But obviously you`ve missed my point. I`m not here to argue, just sharing my experiences and opinions. If you ever meet somebody shot at as often as my coworkers and I, ask them what it`s like.
Cassandra Babcock Cassandra Babcock Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:51:21 AM "Ironically, police have said, Haller was treated by one of the three men he allegedly tried to harm in the crash." Of course he was... That's the job and life and heart of EMS.
Danielle Demchak Danielle Demchak Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:18:52 AM There are a lot of pieces to the puzzle that are missing. If we had all the information the picture would be better. But the biggest part of that was that his father stated that he had a history of "mental illness." (bad term by the way.) The fact that the person had a headache and sought treatment at a local hospital is perfectly fine, but then you add the idea that the person may not have the rationale to distinguish between EMS and Police. (Where I used to "work" PD, Fire, and EMS all had the same patch styling.) The person has a history of violence towards even PD, so EMS and Fire staff are bound to get bunched in there as a kind of "civil servant."
Patty Slocumb Patty Slocumb Fri Feb 17 21:27:39 PST 2012 ?? They were in an ambulance...he clearly has a disregard for ems also. The guy knew exactly what he was doing and who he was doing it to. I hope he gets the max.
Chris Palmieri Chris Palmieri Friday, February 17, 2012 6:32:14 PM This is fing unbelievable! Whats it gonna take to stop thhis guy hes obviously a sadist targeting public servents and needs to be taken out before he just goes up to a cop or medic ect and shoots them in the face and "chuckles" but no I forget this guys freedom and our tolerance of his behavior is worth more than our lives...bull!
Robert Limpert Robert Limpert Friday, February 17, 2012 8:04:18 PM This is horrible. What if they werent in the rig? I wonder if this guy knew the medic that treated him was in the rig. Just goes to show, we need to keep our eyes open even when we are not on scene. Thank god they are ok.
Marty Munro Marty Munro Friday, February 17, 2012 8:53:21 PM I think it's good that he is being charged, and that the charges are serious. I think that where I work, somehow, the medics would have been blamed for the incident and expected to apologize for not somehow moving the ambuance out of the way. But that's the Canadian way. You Americans don't mess around. Glad that nobody was seriously hurt.
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